Giammalvo Files
Mark Giammalvo specializes in driveability
diagnostics at his family business,
Sam Giammalvo's Auto Sales & Service, Inc. in New
Bedford, MA.
Mark, who has been with the business for
over 20 years, is an ASE Master Technician and Parts Specialist.
He also holds the ASE L1 certification, and has an
associates degree in business management.
Mark is also a writer for Motor Age Magazine and is the past secretary of
the Alliance of Automotive Service Professionals, (AASP).
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Lexus Revisited
(Printed in the Journal of The Alliance
of Automotive Service Providers, AASP)
For those of you who remember the fiasco over me
ordering a key to a Lexus LS400 a while back, let's just say: "here goes round
two". In that last scenario, I almost got stuck paying for a $200.00 ignition
key that they cut without telling us how expensive it was. As a result of
that incident, we do business with a different Lexus dealer. Well, to put
it in New England Yankee terms: "they ain't much better". We recently sold
another late model Lexus LS400 to a customer. During the test drive, the
customer noticed that both power mirrors were inoperative. Later that day
I attempted to diagnose the problem myself since the customer was buying the
car from us and the vehicle was outside of factory warranty. The wiring diagram
revealed that this was a complex circuit involving a "Mirror ECU". The fuses
that powered the mirror circuit where good so I proceeded to remove the mirror
control switch from the dash. Let's just say that about 45 minutes later
I finally had the switch out after dropping the lower knee bolster, hood
cable, and left dash mount bolts. There was no power to any wire at the switch.
I checked for bulletins but there were none for this symptom. I quickly logged
onto to IATN's repair archives found nothing their either. It appeared that
I would have to access the mirror ECU to check power and grounds. According
to Alldata, this ECU is located behind the passenger's air bag assembly deep
inside the dash. (Through sensors in each mirror, the ECU counts the turns
of the mirror motors and stores them with the driver #1 and driver #2 seat
position memory). I decided that we should make an appointment with the Lexus
dealer, (about 50 miles away), and just pay them to diagnose and repair the
system. Perhaps they would find a simpler solution to this problem. I called
the dealer and they gave me an appointment about three weeks in advance,
(Nov.2). No problem, its not like the car can't be driven. The customer took
delivery from us and I told them to come in on Thursday Nov. 2 and we would
take the car to the Lexus dealer for them. On Thursday, Nov. 2 the
customer dropped off the car and I had two of our employees hike the car
to the Lexus dealer. At about 3:00 PM that day I called for the status of
the car. The service writer, (Bill), stated that they were busy and had not
brought the car in yet. I called the customer and advised them that the car
would have to stay overnight. They were disappointed but were understanding.
The next day, Friday, I called the dealership again in the afternoon. Bill
was busy so I left a message with the secretary for him to call me. An hour
later, no call. I decided to call the dealership again. Bill again told me
that they were so, so busy and had still not looked at the car. I started
to complain a little on behalf of the customer. Bill told me that they were
very busy with Lexus work and were even helping another Lexus dealer with
their overflow of work. They said that they worked on Saturday and to call
back tomorrow and they hoped by then they will have looked at the car. I
called Saturday about 11:00 AM and asked for Bill. The secretary said he
was busy but she would transfer me to his voice mail. I left him a message
to call me with an update and advised that we would be open Saturday till
4:00 PM. Four o'clock came and went with no call. On Monday morning I again
called but Bill was busy. I left another message on his voice mail. By 3:00
PM Monday Bill had still not called back, so I called again. I finally got
Bill, that was the good news. The bad news? They still "had not got a chance"
to get the car into the shop.
(Needless to say on our end...things were beginning to fall
apart. The customer was absolutely wild that the car was not ready. I
did not have the nerve to tell them that the car had not even been looked
at yet. The customer was starting to question if they could have their money
back on the purchase of the car. I really can't blame them. Who wants a car
that you can't service? The customer was calmed down buy our promise to immediately
put them in a free rental. At the same time my dad was calming down the
customer, I was on the phone putting in a complaint call with Lexus Customer
Assistance in California. We got the customers permission to call on their
behalf. In a case like this, the customer may not want to take the time to
complain to the factory but will usually give you permission to call on their
behalf. If you call as an independent dealer or technician, manufacturer
customer assistance employees will not usually listen to your case. We always
get better results when they think the actual customer is on the phone complaining.
Anyway, I called, acting as the customer, complaining about the fact that
an appointment was booked for my vehicle for work at the dealership on Thursday
and here it was the following Monday and the car had never even entered
the shop. I told them the reason I bought a Lexus was because I wanted a
reliable car and one that could be serviced when needed. The woman
at customer assistance was very professional and apologized on behalf of
Lexus Corporation and agreed that there was no reason after four days that
the car was not at least at the diagnostic phase of the repair let alone
completed).
My father got on the phone with Bill and asked to speak with the service
or general manager. The general manager finally came on the line and all
he could say was that they were very busy and swamped with work. My father
told them that we were a retail customer, willing to pay for diagnosis and
repair, and wanted to know what the heck was going on their. (My dad was
right after all. It's not like this was warranty work. We all know that vehicles
in for warranty service are looked at last in the scheduled work day. This
was a retail job!) The service manager promised that the car would be looked
at tomorrow and at least diagnosed. The service manager called the next
day and advised us that the mirror ECU was the culprit and would cost #330.00
plus three hours labor to repair. They would not give us our discount on
the part so my father talked them into giving us an hour's labor off the
repair cost. The next day we sent our employees back to pick up the car with
a check for $490.00. Not cheap but at least we could give the customer their
car back.
With the car back in the customer's possession I decided to call someone
I knew at the parts department of the dealership to tell them about the
situation that occurred. They admitted that it was unacceptable but also
stated that the service department was "out of control" with work and that
situations like this were getting more common.
Toyota and Lexus really do make very reliable cars. I don't think
there are may technicians out their that would question that. It just
amazes me that a company with such a great reputation and corporate image
could have such a sloppy dealership. I don't think the average Lexus customer,
(doctors and lawyers), are going to have as much patience as we did. Perhaps
the problem is a combination of the shortage of technicians, poor management,
and the lack of Lexus dealerships.
Hang in, it's wild out their!
Mark Giammalvo
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