Giammalvo Files
Mark Giammalvo specializes in driveability
diagnostics at his family business,
Sam Giammalvo's Auto Sales & Service, Inc. in New
Bedford, MA.
Mark, who has been with the business for
over 20 years, is an ASE Master Technician and Parts Specialist.
He also holds the ASE L1 certification, and has an
associates degree in business management.
Mark is also a writer for Motor Age Magazine and is the past secretary
of the Alliance of Automotive Service Professionals, (AASP).
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Three Options
(Printed in the Journal of The Alliance
of Automotive Service Providers, AASP)
Have you ever gotten into a conversation that you wish you hadn't gotten
into, only to realize that during the conversation, your too far into it
in order to bail out? Wow! That's a run on sentence if I ever heard one,
but...it happens. Today we received a call that fit that criteria. This customer
had purchased a 95 Jeep Grand Cherokee from us back in January of this year.
Since she lives about a half hour away from us she has her vehicle serviced
with a shop closer to her home. No problem there. She brought the Jeep into
a shop in her area for service. Her complaint was a rattle under the car.
When she went to pick up the car she was somewhat surprised at the invoice
total. She was calling to ask me some advice. She wanted to know if I would
call her for authorization before replacing a $265.00 part. I told her that
many of our customers, unless they specifically give us unlimited authorization,
like knowing approximately how much a repair will cost before hand.
(This is not unreasonable in today's day and age anyway. I know personally
that I like don't like being left in the dark regarding costs whether its
with a plumber, electrician or whomever.)
Anyway, I told her that we do ask the customers permission in most cases,
especially with a part of that expense. The shop had replaced the catalytic
converter for the rattle. I suspect that the cat probably had broken substrate
inside, causing the rattle. As our conversation was progressing I thought
about the emissions warranty. I told her that federal emissions mandates
that the catalytic converter falls under an emission device that is covered
under a 5 year 50,000 mile warranty. Actually, since this is a 1995, the
emission warranty on the cat should be 8 years 80,000 miles. Regardless, the
Jeep was not 5 years old and it only had 28,000 miles. In my personal and
professional opinion, any shop that has been in this industry for any amount
of time should at least know about the 5/50 emission warranty. Although I
did not want to get between her and the other shop I advised her to call the
shop owner. I was confident that the shop owner and the customer may be able
to come to some kind of mutual agreement over what is obviously an oversight.
After an hour or two, my customer called me back. She reported to me that
the owner did not feel that he should have called her and in any event had
never heard of emission warranty. Now I don't like to get upset in
situations like this but....COME ON! NEVER HEARD OF EMISSION WARRANTY? HOW
ABOUT NEW CAR WARRANTY? "Excuse me"....I said to the customer..."let
me regain my composure". {Mark is observed taking a deep breath}. Silently,
I thought to myself....maybe they knew about the warranty but wanted to sell
the cat anyway?
The customer wanted to know if anything else could
be done. On occasion, in the past, when customers have had a part replaced
that should have been warranty, we have been able to petition the manufacturer
for a refund. However, from my experience, the manufacturer will only reimburse
an independent shops work under several conditions: If the customer needed
service when an independent shop was open at the same time the dealer was
closed, and, that the symptoms would be consistent with a car that should
not be driven. I told her that I would consult the service manager of the
Jeep dealer in her area who I happened to know personally anyway. I called
the service manager and explained the whole situation. Together we came
up with some ideas. I called my customer back and advised her that we came
up with three options.
Option # 1 (the harsh option): Contact American Express, (how she paid
the invoice), and have the amount put in dispute and let American Express
challenge the merchant (shop).
Option # 2: (the nicer option): Have the shop remove the new cat and
give her the old one plus a refund of $265.00 for the cat. The shops keeps
the labor. At that point the dealer will return the defective cat and put
on a new one for free.
Option # 3: (the "I goofed but this won't cost me" option): Have the
shop give her a new invoice dated on a Saturday and have the symptom line
on the invoice read: "car is low on power & customer is afraid to drive"
(This way the manufacturer will honor the reimbursement since it is outside
of dealership hours and the symptom is consistent with having to park the
car). With that advice, she was somewhat relieved. I don't know what the
outcome will be but I hope everything works out. I also expressed my apologies
for our industry for this event. As shop owners and human beings we all make
mistakes, it's owning up to them that can be hard to do. We spoke about automotive
credentials and how the automotive industry is actually getting better every
day and how training, technology, and information access should keep things
like this from happening in the future.
As a side note, I happened to be asking my fried Steve Rehm, from Northeast
Automotive, his advice regarding this situation. Steve brought up another
thought that slipped my mind: Since the cat failed at such an early mileage,
did the shop check to see if fuel mixture is in control? Or, did the cat
fail for another reason? Good questions which could help prevent a repeat
cat failure. Thanks Steve!
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